10,000 ~ Swastika ~ Wan ~ Lei Wen ~ Gospel of Thomas ~ 23 ~ Probability ~ Chance

37/10,000%  or  0.0037%

The Apollo 10 crew; Thomas Stafford, John W. Young and Eugene Cernan achieved the highest speed relative to Earth ever attained by humans; 39,896 km/h (11.1082222 km/s, 24,790 mph, approximately 32 times the speed of sound and approximately 0.0037 percent of the speed of light).[5] The record was set 26 May 1969.[5]

Symbolism of 10,000

  • Symbol of plenitude, the fertility and the abundance.
  • The 10000 beings, according to the Yi-King, evoking the totality of things.
  • The 10000 verses of each of the twenty books which would have written Zarathustra.
  • Ten thousand guardian angels escorted Mary and Joseph during their trip to Bethlehem, for the birth of the Word, according to the visions of Mary Agreda.
  • For the Chineses and the Mongols, the swastika cross (sign of salvation in ceremonies) means the 10000 truths which concern the mysteries of the Invisible Universe, the Primordial Cosmogony, of the Theogony. It symbolizes the movement, the energy, the forward walking.
  • “The Tao has fathered one, one has fathered a two, two has fathered three and three has fathered ten thousand” – wrote Lao-Tseu.

10,000 in the Bible

Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
(KJV) The Apocalypse of John

  • Saint Paul said to Corinthians: “for even though you might have 10000 slaves to look after you in Christ, you still have no more than one father”. (1 Co 4,15)
  • Saint Paul wrote: “When I am in the assembly I would rather say 5 words with my mind, to instruct others as well, than 10000 words in a tongue.” (1 Co 14,19)
  • To find what there is the best, we choose one among 1000 or 10000. (Sg 5,10; Si 6,6 and 16,3)
  • “Though a 1000 fall at your sides, 10000 at your right hand, you yourself will remain unscathed.” (Ps 91,7)
  • The Lord promises that the enemies will fall under the sword if 5 Israelites pursue 100 of them , and 100 Israelites pursue 10000 of them. (Lv 26,8)
  • The people said to David: “you are 10000 times more valuable”. (2 S 18,3)
  • The highest number in the Bible described by a single word is 10,000 (ribbo or ribbo’, murias).
  • The highest numbers referred to in any way in the Bible are:
    “a thousand thousand” (1 Chronicles 22:14 2 Chronicles 14:9); “thousands of thousands” (Daniel 7:10 Revelation 5:11);
    “thousands of ten thousands” (Genesis 24:60);
    “ten thousand times ten thousand” (Daniel 7:10 Revelation 5:11);
  • “myriad” the highest ancient number with its own name
    Greeks used letters of the Greek alphabet to represent Greek numerals: they used a capital letter mu (Μ) to represent 10000, whose name in Greek is myriad.
    [1040000 = 1000010000 The value of a myriad to the power of itself, written (by the system of Apollonius of Perga) as a little M directly above a larger M]
  • 10,000-year clock or the Clock of the Long Now is a mechanical clock designed to keep time for 10,000 years.
  • In futurology, Stewart Brand in Visions of the Future: The 10,000-Year Library proposes a museum built around a 10,000 year clock as an idea for assuring that vital information survives future crashes of civilizations.
  1. 864,000,000 seconds
  2. 14,400,000 minutes
  3. 240,000 hours
  4. 1428 weeks (rounded down)


“The Song of Songs, which is Solomon’s” Seems to be so entitled, as composed by Solomon, the wisest of men, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and as composed concerning the true Solomon, the Prince of Peace, of whom the son of David was an eminent type.

The Christian Fathers compare the whole teaching of Solomon to a ladder consisting of three steps: Proverbs embraces instruction in morals; Ecclesiastes indicates the nature of things transient; and the Song of Songs contains the mystic union of Christ and His Church, that we may fly upward to the Great Bridegroom.

-A. Moody Stuart

10,000 Chieftain Song of Songs 1 of 3
10,000 Chieftain Song of Songs 2 of 3
10,000 Chieftain Song of Songs 3 of 3

Honest, my lord?

Ay, sir. To be honest, as this world goes, is to be one man picked out of ten thousand.

That’s very true, my lord.

10,000 Things

The “10,000 Things” is a term meaning all of phenomenal reality.

The I Ching’s texts refer also to the 10,000 things as;


Paul Martyn-Smith

‘Wantsu’ and the ‘Swastika’

The Chinese call the swastika ‘Wan’ meaning the whole creation or the myriad things.
‘Wantsu’ or ‘swastika’ represents the four points or directions of the compass.
It symbolizes the 10,000 myriad things or infinity.

In Asia it is still used to designate a church on maps and the Kanji for 10,000 is derived from the swastika, which was associated with 10,000 gods.

magnified image of the oldest swastika patterns recovered ~ see below

Interesting coincidence is that the oldest swastika on record dates from about … 10,000 BCE

[Image: MezinUkraine10000BCbirdhats.jpg]


Ice age Bird Figureines from Mezin [ca 10,000 BCE] with Inscribed Swastikas (after Hancar 10 from research by Volkov11

The prevalence of situs inversus varies among different populations but is less than in 10,000 people.

Situs inversus (also called situs transversus or oppositus) is a congenital condition in which the major visceral organs are reversed or mirrored from their normal positions. The normal arrangement is known as situs solitus.

What does the above image suggest when comparing the cw and ccw swastika to ‘handedness’?
In fact it is not surprising to find out that our two hands L/R and the two opposed swastikas can both be described as chiral and asymmetric.

The term chirality is derived from the Greek word for hand

IF metaphorically god molded men out of clay, then god’s hands as ‘tools’ should be explored as potential clues?
Especially if Nobel prize winner Wolfgang Pauli said;
“God is a weak left-hander after all,” he wrote exuberantly to Jung.

Wan /swastika = 10,000 the Great Number

China has two auspicious names for the swastika, the Wan and LEI Wen

The meaning of Lei is “thunder”.  

LEI, is generally used as a boy’s name. It consists of 3 letters and 1 syllable and is pronounced Lei.

LEI Wen = swastika = Thunder Scroll

One of the Chinese names for the Swastika is Lei Wen, or thunder scroll, showing that is was associated with the sky, and the sky gods are associated with creation.

The swastika is associated with the number ten thousand, the “Great Number”, signifying the whole of creation.

Another Chinese name for the Swastika is Wan or Wan Tzu. It is said to have come from heaven. As a character among Chinese Hieroglyphs, it means prosperity, good luck, wealth and long life.

The word for “Power” in Chinese characters is a Swastika.

The Crux Gammata

This symbol is also known as the swastika, a name derived from the Sanskrit svastika. As a symbol of prosperity and good fortune, the swastika was widely used in the ancient world. The swastika, known as the Manji in Japanese which moves in a counterclockwise direction stands for Night and Magical practices and is generally considered a solar symbol. It was this version that was perverted by the Nazis and used as their symbol.

It stood for a great num- ber, infinity, many bless- ings. It was the key to excellence. Enclosed in a circle it was the word for the sun. It was known in Japan under the name of Mang-ziou (the sign of 10,000 years). It is stamped on archaic vases and pottery found in India, Persia, China, Italy, Greece, Cyprus; it is found on ancient bronze ornaments in England, France, Etruria; it ap- pears on bronze objects found in the Swiss lake dwell- ings and on ceintures of bronze, also on weapons and various articles of dress and ornament in Germany and Scandinavia; it is graven on sculptured stones and Celtic crosses in Ireland and Scotland, and is found in pre-historic burial grounds in Scandinavia, Mexico, Peru, Yucatan, Paraguay and the United States.

It was used before the Aryans commenced their migra-tions, and has been called the oldest Aryan symbol.

Apparently it was never adopted by the Phoenicians, Babylonians, Assyrians, or Egyptians, yet it has been found in Egypt, the inference being that it was brought there by the Greeks.

Wherever it appears, like the wheel it was considered to be an image of the sun and was thus honoured.The heraldry of the Middle Ages blazoned it on shields. In modern heraldry it is given the name gammadion or crux gammata from its resem- blance to a four-fold repetition of the Greek gamma.

source: Life Symbols as Related to Sex Symbolism pg 226-227

The Aurora is a unit of area, 10,000 square Royal Cubits.


Zoroaster coincidentally contains the words zero and rotas, two ideas that could have originated in India.
The zero and swastika rotations.
The Rig Veda makes reference to RiTa not RoTa.
And we know zero was co-invented in India and by the Maya in Mesoamerica.

“He who has 10,000 horses”

Zahhāk or Zahāk or Zohhāk is an evil figure in Iranian mythology, evident in ancient Iranian folklore as Aži Dahāka (Azh dahak), the name by which he also appears in the texts of the Avesta. In Middle Persian he is called Dahāg or Bēvar-Asp, the latter meaning “[he who has] 10,000 horses”. Within Zoroastrianism, Zahak (going under the name Aži Dahāka) is considered the son of Angra Mainyu, the foe of Ahura Mazda.

UPDATE April 10, 2015

Gospel of Thomas ~ 23

Gospel of Thomas saying no. 23

The Gospel of Thomas contains a previously unknown saying attributed to Jesus concerning Divine election. Saying 23 of the Gospel of Thomas reads (Lambdin version):

Jesus said, “I shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as a single one.”

When we look closely at GTh 23, it seems to contain three main concepts:

(1) The idea that Jesus will choose people (“you,” plural).
(2) The chosen people will be relatively few in number (specifically, “one out of a thousand and two out of ten thousand”).
(3) The chosen people will stand as one.

The first aspect of GThomas 23, the idea that Jesus will choose people, is related to both the Jewish and Christian interpretations of the concept of election (including GThomas 49 & 50) and this rather large topic is beyond the scope of this message. The remainder of this message concentrates on the second aspect of GThomas 23 as outlined above: the chosen people will be relatively few in number. The third topic, the concept that the chosen people “will stand as one,” is discussed here only in terms of the function it serves within GThomas 23 and not the function it serves within Syriac Christianity or within the Gospel of Thomas as a whole.

In GThomas 23, Jesus indicates that the number of those he chooses is far less than the number of those he does not choose. Now a general saying concerning the proportion of those chosen to those not chosen was also attributed to Jesus within early Christianity in the form of Matthew 22:14 ~ “For many are called, but few are chosen.” This same saying also occurs in the Epistle of Barnabas (Ep. of Barnabas, ch. 4 ~ “Many are called, but few are chosen”) where it is called “scripture.” So we see that a loose parallel to GThomas 23 was also circulating within early Christianity outside of the Gospel of Thomas.

But what are we to make of the particular form that the saying takes in GThomas 23?

While the use of the specific ratios of 1:1,000 and 2:10,000 are unique to GThomas 23 as a saying of Jesus, the appearance of these ratios is, at least to some extent, traditional. For example, the ratio of 1:1,000 is found in the following sources: Job 9:2,3 ~ “But how can a mortal be righteous before God? Though one wished to dispute with him, he could not answer him one time out of a thousand;” Job 33:23 ~ “Yet if there is an angel on his side as a mediator, one out of a thousand, to tell a man what is right for him;” Ecclesiastes 7:28 ~ “I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all.”

The ratio of 1:10,000 is found in the Song of Solomon: 5:10 ~ “My lover is radiant and ruddy, outstanding among ten thousand;” and in 2 Kings 14:7 ~ “He was the one who defeated ten thousand Edomites in the Valley of Salt and captured Sela in battle, calling it Joktheel, the name it has to this day.”

The ration of 1,000(s):10,000(s) is found in 1 Sam. 18:7, 8 ~ As they danced, they sang: “Saul has slain his thousands, and David his tens of thousands;” in Psalms 91:7~ “A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you;” and in Michah 6:7 ~ “Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil?”

The ratios of 1:1000 and 2:10,000 are combined in Deuteronomy 32:20 ~ “How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless the LORD had given them up?”

The two ratios that appear in Deuteronomy 32:20 – 1:1,000 and 2:10,000 – are precisely the same as the two ratios we find in GThomas 23. While these two ratios do not appear in the New Testament writings, they do surface in the writings of Irenaeus, where they appear within a description of the teachings of Basilides – “Against All Heresies,” Book 1, Ch. 24:6 ~ “The multitude, however, cannot understand these matters, but only one out of a thousand, or two out of ten thousand. They declare that they are no longer Jews, and that they are not yet Christians; and that it is not at all fitting to speak openly of their mysteries, but right to keep them secret by preserving silence.” (The way in which Basilides uses these ratios to signify the few who can “understand” the “mysteries” that are “secret” is reminiscent of certain sayings in the Gospel of Thomas, such as the Prologue and saying 62.)

But there is yet another parallel to GThomas 23 that has a similar meaning and form, though it does not include mention of 1,000 or 10,000. Specifically, Jeremiah 3:14 reads ~ “I will choose you – one from a town and two from a clan – and bring you to Zion.” In this quote, we find some of the aspects of the form of Thomas 23 that sets it apart from other Christian examples of Divine election. As in GThomas 23, the process of choosing is described in the first person, future tense, active voice and those chosen will be one from here and two from there. Furthermore, the ending of Jer. 3:14, “and bring you to Zion,” is a brief prediction of the ultimate fate of the chosen ones, just as we find in the ending of GThomas 23, “they shall stand as a single one.”

In summary, GThomas 23 is a prediction of election made by Jesus that seems to be an interpretation or re-statement of Jer. 3:14 in which the “one from a town and two from a clan” specifications have been changed to “one out of a thousand and two out of ten thousand,” possibly due to the influence of such traditional passages as Deut. 32:20 and Psalms 91:7. The ending of the saying in Jer. 3:14 has also been changed in GThomas 23, though the function it serves is similar in both cases. A different form of the saying was current in early Christianity (Matt. 22:14; Ep. Barn. 4) and Irenaeus attributes the use of the same ratios that appear in GThomas 23 to Basilides within the context of understanding secret mysteries. These, then, are the passages that form the background to an understanding of GThomas 23.

– Kevin Johnson

But of the links I have come across thus far, the ideas presented here are worth pondering;

The words of Yeshua have to be understood from a totally different perspective.
In an essay “The Gospel of Thomas and the Hermeneutics of Vision” by Dr. Lance Owens writes that “This tradition is defined by its hermeneutics (study of interpretation theory): Only one who understands the method of interpretation will understand the message. It is a psychological paradox: the message is the method; the method is vision – a perceptive, spiritually uplifted, visionary encounter with the message.

The target group of thousand and ten thousand are multiples of ten and carries an important significance. According to St. Emanuel Swedenborg, in his magnum opus ‘Arcana Coelestia’, he says; “The number “ten” in the Holy Scriptures, as also “tenths” signify and represent remains, which are preserved by the Lord in the internal man, and which are holy, because they are of the Lord alone”
Out of entire humanity, the thousand and the ten thousand that are being scanned for the choice are already spiritual adepts, as they represent the higher stages of spiritual consciousness. This can be equated to the Master of the vineyard who picks the ripened grapes from the vines for the wine press.

From this elite group only one from the first level of spiritual consciousness and two from the higher level are chosen. The significance of one and two are also important. Both the candidates have a common requirement, namely; they have to stand as one which means that all duality must be eradicated and the individual consciousness must be merged with the Divine. This can be achieved by those who have unity of purpose (one) in karmic duties and worship and those who carry this unity of purpose to a higher level through the power of their spiritual wisdom. The consciousness uplifting act is equated to the power of (two) wings in many Scriptural passages.

The extent and depth of this saying while pointing out the difficulty that we might encounter in our spiritual pursuit, points to a methodology through powerful interpretation and symbolism.

And after pondering all of the above information I feel this next idea that I would like to present should also be considered.
The underlying message that Gospel 23 might have also been hinting at suggests the vital wisdom that was being conveyed was an introductory course on probability?
What if the Gospel of Thomas (and others) contain insights to geometry too, along with physics and math that can still be exploited today to explore the quantum unseen world?
A 21st century Pythagoras would suggest such a rudimentary question is highly rhetorical, so can we get on with it?

First Course on Probability 10000 + 1000 Gospel of Thomas saying 23

Gospel 23 adds up to 11,000
2/3 lies between 1/2 and 3/4
2/3 was the most important ratio employed by the Egyptians

~ end of UPDATE ~

Number 8

8 is a lucky number is China, therefore I find this Tamil poem interesting, err I mean unifying!

ஓரெட்டில் அடங்காத பிள்ளை,
ஈரெட்டில் பயிலாத கல்வி,
மூவெட்டில் முடிக்காத மணம்,
நாலெட்டில் பெறாத பிள்ளை,
ஐயெட்டில் சேர்க்காத தனம்,
ஆறெட்டில் செய்யாத தர்மம்,
ஏழெட்டில் செய்யாத தவம்,
எட்டெட்டில் போகாத உயிர்,
என்றென்றும் துன்பம் தானே!

The translation:

It is miserable if a child is not obedient in 1st 8 years,
It is miserable if a child is not learning in 2nd 8 years,
It is miserable if an adult is not married in the 3rd 8 years,
It is miserable if a couple is not blessed with child in 4th 8 years,
It is miserable if one is not making fortune in 5th 8 years,
It is miserable if one is not distributing a portion for charity in 6th 8 years,
It is miserable if one is not leading spiritual life in 7th 8 years,
It is miserable if one’s soul is not escaping in the 8th 8 years.

8 x 8 = 64 

I am currently 57 (in my 7th 8 years) and I do plan on escaping when I AM 64.

What is the significance of the number 64 to the I-Ching, our DNA codons, chess, and the Great Pyramid?

UPDATE 10/10/2013

Energies of a photon at 500 keV and an electron after Compton scattering.

Is this of any significance?
I believe it might be.

Note the Vesica Piscis.

Compton found that some X-rays experienced no wavelength shift despite being scattered through large angles; in each of these cases the photon failed to eject an electron.[3] Thus the magnitude of the shift is related not to the Compton wavelength of the electron, but to the Compton wavelength of the entire atom, which can be upwards of 10 000 times smaller.

Low-energy phenomena

Mid-energy phenomena

Thomson scattering is the elastic scattering of electromagnetic radiation by a free charged particle, as described by classical electromagnetism. It is just the low-energy limit of Compton scattering.

Compton scattering is an inelastic scattering of a photon by a free charged particle, usually an electron. It results in a decrease in energy (increase in wavelength) of the photon (which may be an X-ray or gamma rayphoton), called the Compton effect. Part of the energy of the photon is transferred to the scattering electron.

Feynman diagram for pair production
photon decays into an electronpositron pair

High-energy phenomena

Pair production refers to the creation of an elementary particle and its antiparticle, usually when a photon(or another neutral boson) interacts with a nucleus or another boson.


Why is the vesica piscis an important connection to the bigger picture … part of the underlying message being passed forward?

to be continued as the inPHO arrives I will post it.

selah V

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  • raphael  On April 12, 2017 at 4:39 am

    Rigveda is the oldest, largest and most important of the Vedas, containing ten thousand verses forming 1017 poems in 20 groups


    The Rig-Veda Samhita is the oldest significant extant Indian text. It is a collection of 1,028 Vedic Sanskrit hymns and 10,600 verses in all, organized into ten books (Sanskrit: mandalas). The hymns are dedicated to Rigvedic deities. The books were composed by sages and poets from different priestly groups over a period of at least 500 years, which Avari dates as 1400 BCE to 900 BCE, if not earlier According to Max Muller, based on internal evidence (philological and linguistic), the Rigveda was composed roughly between 1700-1100 BCE (the early Vedic period) in the Punjab (Sapta Sindhu) region of the Indian subcontinent. Michael Witzel believes that the Rig Veda must have been composed more or less in the period 1450-1350 BCE. There are strong linguistic and cultural similarities between the Rigveda and the early Iranian Avesta, deriving from the Proto-Indo-Iranian times, often associated with the Andronovo culture; the earliest horse-drawn chariots were found at Andronovo sites in the Sintashta-Petrovka cultural area near the Ural mountains and date to ca. 2000 BCE.

    Rigveda means the Veda of Adoration and mostly contains verses adoring or adulating deities. But it also dealt with other subjects, like the procedure of wedding, the folly of gambling. About two-thirds of Rigveda is about the gods Agni (Fire) and Indra (Ruler of the gods). Other Rigvedic gods include Rudra, the two Ashvins,Savitar and Surya, Varuna, the Maruts and the Ribhus. There are references to a divine creeper, the Soma, whose juice was an energizer. Some animals like horses, some rivers, and even some implements (like mortar and pestle) were deified. Rigveda contains a sense of intimate communion between Nature and the Rishis or visionaries. According to some, the concerns of Rigveda are those of simple, nomadic, pastoral Aryans. According to others, the people in the times of the Rigveda had a settled home, definite mode of life, developed social customs, political organizations, and even arts and amusements. Rigveda is the oldest, largest and most important of the Vedas, containing ten thousand verses forming 1017 poems in 20 groups.


  • raphael  On April 25, 2017 at 11:35 pm


    The ten thousand things is a Chinese expression used to mean the indefinite multitude of all forms and beings in manifest existence.

    Thus, it denotes the fecundity of the all-creative maya – the boundless abundance of Our Mother God, and also the world of multiplicity, change and flux as opposed to the unitary transcendence of the Spirit.

    The number ten thousand as indicating indefinite multiplicity is by no means restricted to Chinese usage. For example, in ancient Greek, the term myrioi means “ten thousand” and, with a small change of accentuation, means “an indefinite multiplicity”. This dual usage has carried over into English, where the word “myriad”, which means literally “ten thousand”, is used to mean an indefinite large number.


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